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Equally stable all directions? - by: uk_exile

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Do experienced surf ski paddlers feel comfortable travelling in all directions in the sea? Or are you a lot more comfortable upwind and downwind with the turning around phase being a bit sketchy?

Reason for question is I’ve not paddled in sea much and mostly paddling 6m multisport kayaks in grade 1 & 2 rivers. However I really need to up my sea skills rapidly as have a multi-day adventure race coming up in 4mths that will involve open sea paddling. I’ve been out 3 times in last fortnight on a Red7 Surf 70 Pro ski and I’m fine going up or downwind, even at 45 angle to water movement is ok but I feel I really struggle if they’re direct side on swells. Both the vertical lift and the rolling pitch gets me badly. Turning around takes a long time too as I start to focus on stability and speed drops so I’m in tippy zone even longer. As in the race we could be paddling long distances in any direction (perhaps at night too) I’ll keep training myself intentionally doing most paddling cross wind and along swells rather than up or down them however I’d like to know if the stability comfort difference is likely to remain.

20 Beaches Ocean Classic - lessons to learn? - by: AR_convert

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Knowing that many paddler chose to avoid facebook, where a lot of discussion around this event is happening, I have shared this here for all to learn from.

Michael Booth posted this open letter to his page and shared it to his facebook page regarding the running of the 20 Beaches Ocean Classic on the weekend.

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE 20 BEACHES ORGANISING COMMITTEE
What Happened?



In this letter I will outline what I think happened on Saturday and why I think paddlers need an explanation. I will also give you my thoughts, ideas and potential outcomes to rectify what happened. Please read below and give the paddling community an answer by 6pm on Wednesday.



“What am I doing this for?” That was the first thing that went through my head Saturday morning. In hindsight I wished I just turned over and went back to sleep. My gut was telling me not to go and I should have listened!



The night before the race after deliberation with many past champions of the event I decided to book my flights. Flights were booked in on Friday at 7:30pm and $100 entry in, just before the cut off at 8pm. Like most paddlers, I was looking forward to travelling away with my mates and participating in a well-run event. It’s been a huge year for me and I have raced most weekends but at the end of the day I wanted to support Australia’s longest running surf ski race. I couldn’t resist.



20 Beaches hasn’t been an event I’ve attended over the years, despite it having great prestige among Australian paddlers (or used to?). After attending in 2012 it left a bitter taste in my mouth after poor management damaged my impression of the event. Growing up in Newcastle each year, many of the paddlers would drive down the F3 to attend what used to be the biggest race in the country. I looked up to all those paddlers from my local surf club and couldn’t wait till I got a shot at it. It was something I really wanted to win, as I got older.



After the event this year many paddlers including myself, were left angry, confused, disillusioned as to what the event has become. We just had to laugh! It was a joke! We all just want answers as to what happened over the weekend and why? I’ve said some things over the past few days that have been very critical of the organisation and management of the event, some constructive and some not. But now 48hrs after the debacle of an event, I have spoken, read and digested what I think happened and we all need to create positives out of this. The biggest thing that irked me after the event was when I was told by you, ‘the organisers’ that “its not our fault” and what I was saying “wasn’t helping”. Well I’m sorry but that kind of response is just plain and simply unacceptable. I just laughed and walked away. Who were you kidding?



I have had numerous conversations with people asking what happened? I really don’t think anyone knows? This is my recollection of events:



Leading into the event everything seemed great. It was well organised with check in, safety, registration and briefing all being very clear about start times and processes. However once we got near or on the water the shit hit the fan. So basically the thing that everyone went there for wasn’t organised aka the start and finish! I was told a paddler alerted you to the fact there was some surf at Freshwater the morning of the event? I also was told the Northern Beaches Lifeguard Service didn’t even know the event was on? And a lady set off her flare and was picked up by a roving lifeguard jet ski’s, as there wasn’t sufficient water safety? Let me know if I am wrong.



After the briefing the paddlers were advised to make their way out, about an hour from the start time of 1pm. The women, sups and OCs would go at this time with the rest 10 minutes later. There would be two pink cans behind the break that would constitute the start area and a beach finish at Palm Beach? Neither of these were the case.



I waited a bit on the grass and went down to Freshwater Beach in the northern corner about half an hour after the briefing. About 50 paddlers were making their way through the 3ft surf. A few paddlers were coming off but it didn’t seem like anyone was in any real danger. If you waited for the sets to come through there were large lulls in between. After about 100 paddlers got out, then everything seemed to go pear shaped. One paddler got swept into the flags in the middle of the beach and the lifeguard tried to stop everyone going out. This was ok, as he seemed to have control. This is when the clubby patrol got involved and all hell broke loose after that.



They launched about 6 IRBs and were yelling at people on the beach. They were zooming in and out of the break creating havoc. It became a circus! After a ten-minute break they would only let 10 people out at a time for the remaining 100 still on the beach. You can only imagine how long that would take… At this time as there were no pink cans out the back, like you advised, and ultimately paddlers had nowhere to hover around. There was also no communication between the organisers on the beach to the pack out the back. So they just started paddling out what could only be assumed to be 3-4km with a media boat following.



Once people start paddling they just go. I’ve seen a few posts about the culture of paddlers breaking the start. And yes it is an issue, however despite me not being in that group this time, I think this race is an exception to that call. I do know for a fact that many of the elite paddlers stopped the pack multiple times telling everyone to stop and go in. However many other paddlers refused to listen. But how can you blame the paddlers out the back? They had no idea what was going on? There was no communication whatsoever? I was probably a kilometre behind them… but how was I to tell them what was going on? I shouldn’t have to! I assumed the organisers would have told them? What about safety? Paddlers being that far out to sea with no water safety is downright dangerous! What’s the point of enforcing safety on the shore if there is no safety once paddlers are on the water? Is it mismanagement? Or was there just no water safety?



I had paddlers asking me what was going on. I had no idea. I was in two minds, do I just hang around or do I just paddle off with the mob down the coast? Do they know something I don’t? I nearly just paddled to the beach and went straight to the airport. There was so much confusion and I’m sure everyone has their own story! But who is to blame? I just floated down the course angry at my decision to go down to compete. But by the end, I was over it. I refused to cross the ‘deep water’ finish line. We were told it was a beach finish?



I believe something constructive needs to come out of this. Otherwise an event steeped in tradition will be lost forever. After this weekend I do not think the current organisers can handle that many people racing or the task of organising such an event. And that’s fine, event management isn’t for everyone but they need to hand it over to someone that can do it properly.



You said you won’t be giving refunds and all prize money will be pushed to next year. Who does that help? No one will be there next year anyway at this rate! Paddlers should be either getting a refund for an event that basically didn’t happen or at a minimum free entry if the event goes ahead next year! Think about the Kiwi’s they would have spent up to $1200 bucks to do the event, or the guys from Perth, $800. What about the QLD & Tasmanians $600? This isn’t just going to go away! Everyone has a bitter taste in their mouth. They all expected to come to a well – run event.



Something constructive needs to come out of this. Whether you as the management of the event sack yourselves or a new event is created? But the paddling community needs some kind of explanation! The sport needs to move forward not backward. The elites, punters and paddlers of all levels need an answer. It was one of the most expensive events to enter and essentially it just became a disorganised training paddle. It’s just not good enough.



The biggest problem coming out in the wash of this event is the lack of communication once paddlers went in the water at the start and after the event. I just can’t understand how an event can be stuffed up so badly? It’s not that hard! The paddling community needs answers. There are no results, don’t bother with that. Tell us why what occurred, happened? And how you are going to rectify your mistakes? Who is to blame? Why there wasn’t a contingency plan? This should all be detailed in an apology to the 250 paddlers who paid money for a service that wasn’t provided. I hope something constructive can come out of this.



We all deserve a response and outcome by Wednesday 6pm.



I look forward to your response,



Kind Regards,



Michael Booth

Replace rudder tube - by: Wavekayaker

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New to surf skis and picked up a used Elan Crosstrainer with a very stiff rudder. In trying to remove the rudder I've buggered up the rudder tube. I'm fairly decent with composite repairs and was trying to find a replacement rudder tube, rudder, and yoke. The rudder and yoke seem findable, but I can't find anything on the rudder tube. I'm on the U.S. East coast.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!!

PLAYLIST TAHITI 2015 - by: @NachoSoler94

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HI Guys !!!
I went to the world champs in Tahiti and then later to the Mara'amu surfski race. Apart from the racing when I had a blast, my team and I had the time of our lives exploring this wonderful location getting to know the locals who were extremely friendly and hospitable. I have no more words to describe the trip, it was awesome.
I thought that a good idea was to make daily videos about the journey as it was one of the best trips I've ever done.

So I put the link of the playlist here so that you can check out all the great things we did:
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6Zc8kslB...tialt9EtxD2w-h8lhv4Z

PLAYLIST-TAHITI 2015 - by: @NachoSoler94

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HI Guys !!!
I went to the world champs in Tahiti and then later to the Mara'amu surfski race. Apart from the racing when I had a blast, my team and I had the time of our lives exploring this wonderful location getting to know the locals who were extremely friendly and hospitable. I have no more words to describe the trip, it was awesome.
I thought that a good idea was to make daily videos about the journey as it was one of the best trips I've ever done.

So I put the link of the playlist here so that you can check out all the great things we did:
HI Guys !!!
I went to the world champs in Tahiti and then later to the Mara'amu surfski race. Apart from the racing when I had a blast, my team and I had the time of our lives exploring this wonderful location getting to know the locals who were extremely friendly and hospitable. I have no more words to describe the trip, it was awesome.
I thought that a good idea was to make daily videos about the journey as it was one of the best trips I've ever done.

So I put the link of the playlist here so that you can check out all the great things we did:
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6Zc8kslB...tialt9EtxD2w-h8lhv4Z

Used Carbon Swordfish vs New Glass Evo 2 - by: peteski

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Hi All

I need some inputs on surfski decision please.

I've paddled a glass Evo 2 in all conditions and loved everything about it. I'm currently testing a slightly used Carbon Swordfish that I can get for the same price as a new Evo 2.

I haven't been able to paddle the SF in confused waters yet, but it feels super stable in Fish Hoek bay which is flat as a pancake at the moment with the offshore winds we've been having.

Should I test the SF in bumpy waters first or will it be similar to the Evo2?

Sorry if this has been covered before...

Shark Attacks Man on ski - by: Funny Old Fellow

Mazu surfskis - by: AR_Junkie

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I recently changed ski (again) and came across a demo Mazu 45 (produced by Elios kayaks in Portugal). Im totally blown away by the fit and performance of this ski which I consider stable as my previous Swordfish or Epic v10. It has less volume in the nose, less rocker and a very tight catch, making it perfect for the small step waves, confused waters and rivers that I usually paddle, the price is also very competetive comparing to other brands here. I can't see any posts or comments about the brand Mazu on this forum, are they not availible in SA & AU ?

Their webpage leaves alot to wish for but you can see the ski specs:
www.eliokayaks.com/portfolio-items/mazu-45/

Kayak ergometer - by: alexhunter72

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Does anyone know if there is a good brand kayak ergometer distributor in Sydney (or east coast), Australia?

Last time I looked into it the only way you could get hold of a decent one here was to import from the US.

Are there any opinions regarding the off-water training benefits of kayak ergometer versus rowing ergometer for surfski cross training?

Upwind paddling - by: Rod Thomas

Lightweight vs. skinnier - by: Ericspin

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i put in the work on technique and am trying to progress with my mechanics on every paddle. But the fun part of growing on the ski is scheming the next boat. After several years of waffling back and forth between OC1 and ski I think it's safe to say I'm committed to the skip only at this point.

I'm 6'2 and 190 and currently paddling a V10Sport Ultra. Recently have owned and paddled EVO II in Elite and V10 in Performance as well. As I think about the next move which will be something to race with and have as a faster boat than the current Sport. I paddle in west central FL where we see predominantly choppy conditions, a fair amount of side chop and multi directional seas as well as some flattish conditions. This time of year we get downwind opportunities with fronts moving through.

So, the boats on my radar are-

V10Sport in GT
EVO II in Ultimate
V10 in Ultra or GT

Feel like the two intermediate boats in lighter weight would give me the stability I seek with lighter weight for quicker acceleration onto bumps and more overall speed. While the V10 may not be a skinny ski to some, it is to me. Compared to my Sport.

Curious what some of you out there in surfski-land might think about this given the info I have shared.

Garmin Connect hates paddlers - by: Kayaker Greg

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Garmin seems to have taken it to a new level, all my recent paddles are listed as cycling and I cannot edit them to paddling (which is what I do at the end of every session). All paddles in the last 10 days are listed as cycling, I edit and save but then it reverts to cycling. Anyone else noticed this behavior with Garmin Connect (I use the old style Garmin Connect) maybe its their way of forcing me to change to the new layout?

Epic V10s or Stellar SEI for small paddler? - by: andis

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It's for the wife :)
She's 5'6" and weighs 52kg

She finds going upwind in her v7 really tough... She's quite well balanced, though, and reasonably fast and stable in intermediate boats.

Her new boat should also fit me (6'4" 95kg) when I graduate from my current Bluefin, so small cockpits (swordfish, v10l & ses) won't work for now; just a low bow volume boat that she will enjoy for now, until I nick it! (Ok, I'll replace it...)

So we're between the v10s and the stellar SEI - leaning more towards the latter.
What would you suggest?

Or too wide a range for paddler's weight?

Salt calcification - by: Nicotra

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Just wondering if anyone has any helpful tips on how to remove salt calcification build up on ski components, pedals, etc.

Inflatable SURFSKI - by: photofr

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With the recent trend to invite more paddlers into the surfski world, I have to admit that it would be nice to see some inflatable surfskis on the market. It would also seem that the first manufacturer to come up with a decent inflatable model (say in the 50cm in width, complete with an external rudder system) will have a definite edge.

I am not saying people on this board would jump and purchase one to race on them… but they could be made quiet rigid and fun - even for downwind applications. After all, today's inflatables are actually quite advanced and fused (very light, and capable of high PSI).

In fact, I know I would purchase one… for friends wanting to goof around, or simply for crazy stormy days like today… where I would catch a shuttle to an island and paddle back DW.

What are your thoughts?

New paddler - by: Dane

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Hi, I am new to the sport and have only the pleasure to try the V8 and V10 Sport.

I'm looking at maybe purchasing a Vadja Ski and just wanted some tips on what Vadja Ski I should be looking at purchasing for mainly flat water and a little swell. I found the V10 Sport stability at my limits at this stage. I have heard great reports on the Vadja brand.

I'm 6'4 and 85kgs.

Cheers

Seat fit and more rotation using elastic - by: Oops

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Recently I have been testing something to improve my hip rotation and get more power from my legs. The surfski seat seems somewhat restricting to me. Sitting in a well with little wiggle room. When I would use my leg to pull my hip forward it was basically using my weakest leg muscles to go up hill while the push/power stroke used my strongest to go downhill (ramming my bum into the back of the seat).

My idea is to assist the weaker muscles and combat the upward slope by using an elastic. It also give the power side more stroke distance.

I use a 26 mountain bike tire around the waist and attached to the foot strap. If I want a little more pressure I put a few twists in the tube. What this essentially does is pull your hips forward and gets your back from being constantly stuck on the back of the seat. It allows better rotation and better use of your legs to improve your speed.

I see this as a benefit to flat water paddling. I have not used it in any substantial swell nor have I fallen. At the moment it is a one shot deal meaning if you fall out you'd waste more time setting it back up. I can see a simple way to making a simple hook that would make it easier to get seated.

I invite you to try it and let me know what you think. Because it has the potential to restrict your exit on a dump please have your pfd on.

Paddling in New Zealand - by: Kennneee

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Hi All,
Luanne and I are heading to New Zealand next month for a 6 week jaunt. Any info on renting a ski, places to paddle, etc would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!
Cheers,
Ken

Surfski Info really slow or is it just us? - by: Kayaker Greg

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On both my PC and my wifes laptop Surfski Info loads so slow, been like this for several weeks, trying to work out if its a server or router issue at our end or if others have the same problems? Sometimes its like its not going to load at all.

Video thread - by: Hiro

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Wanted to start a thread where we would post our paddling videos. No stroke analisys or technical stuff. Just paddling for the fun of it.
Here's mine.
real fun starts at 3:45

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