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Wetsuits cut for sitting in a surfski?.. - by: DrA5

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With cold weather surfski paddle season here, I relectantly pull out my 4/3 wetsuit when needed at times instead of my Level 6 dry suit. The thing is, I find most wetsuits are “cut” for sports where the body stays in line.....surfing....wind surfing.......scuba diving..... They are not cut for hip/torso flexion of 90+ degrees needed when sitting on a surfski. Now, add the fact that I carry a bit more weight up front above the belt, and I find wetsuits uncomfortable, restrictive in breathing, and trying to pull my upper body backwards. So entry of the feet or legs into the kayak/surfski find me having to lean backwards so much, balance is compromised.

Does anyone know of a brand that is cut for sitting? Do Farmer John type suits work better for sitting versus full wetsuits?

Video thread - by: Hiro

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Wanted to start a thread where we would post our paddling videos. No stroke analisys or technical stuff. Just paddling for the fun of it.
Here's mine.
real fun starts at 3:45

Think Zen...any news or reviews - by: Jef58

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I haven't heard anything about the the Zen as of late. I actually had this boat on my radar as a replacement for my EZE for fitness paddling. I know this is not the target ski for most of the board members here, but was hoping to hear more about this thing by now.

It seems to fall in the same line as a V8 Pro and creates a new level beginner ski to choose from. I guess it is supposed to fill the gap between Ace and EVO while the EZE stands alone as a lighter weight paddler's ski. I almost wonder if it should be in 18 -19" range though....

Single hand sliding up paddle - by: Zarb

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Hello,

I'm just getting into paddling again and noticed something with my hand position on the paddle.

After several strokes, one of my hands will slowly start creeping up towards the center of the shaft. It will only be one of my hands, the other one stays where it is.

Is it an imbalance issue? Am I gripping correctly?

Difference between Fenn Swordfish S and Fenn Swordfish - by: RichardCampbell

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Hi All
Just wanting to know if there really a huge difference between the Swordfish and Swordfish S, in stability and paddling the two. I have been paddling the Elite S.
Also how does the Vajda 43 compare to the above??
Any information would help
Thanks
Richard

Carbonology Boost and Think Zen : same group? - by: Canario

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Carbonology Boost: 5.95 x 50.5
Think Zen : 5.60 x 52
Both are supposed to be in the group of boats between beginners and intermediate, but being so different looking at their measures, would they really be included in the same group of boats?
I really appreciate any opinion.

Knysna viper-opinions please - by: davestephans

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Hello, first time poster here.
Recently I got my first ski, a knysna viper and am curious to see what other peoples opinions of the ski are. Information on the net about it is very sparse and the only mention of it is on this forum is from a self confessed inexperienced paddler.
So far I am really liking it. To my inexperienced eye It looks to have a lot of front rocker so is very easy to turn in choppy water but not as fast on the flat as its length would suggest.
Its fairly tippy but I can paddle a k1 so that's not a problem. I can also remount it so that aspect is good too.
I would like to hear other peoples views on it and especially how you think it compares to other skis. I got it for a great price so if you think its rubbish, please say. I won't be offended.
Thanks

Any experiences with the new NELO 600 Double? - by: SurfskiEstonia

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Hi, guys!

The new Nelo 600 Double is often featured on Oscar Chalupsky's Instagram and FB. Has any of You had the chance to take this boat out to surf? How would You compare it to the Epic V10 Double? I understand from it's width that it's beginner-level stability, but what about the speed and acceleration to catch the wave?

All input very much appreciated :)

Hairline Cracks in Brand New Surfski - by: HangTen

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I recently purchased a new Epic surfski in Club layup. Took it for a spin for the first time on flat and briefly through 1 foot chop. While wiping it down I noticed some fine hairline cracks on either side wall near the front of the bucket. Don't know if they were there at delivery because they are very fine. Boat was transported on Goodboy V-bars.

Is this typical of the layup or a manufacturing defect I should try to warranty out? Haven't had opportunity to meet up with the local dealer yet, so any advice/info is appreciated. Thanks.

Carbonology Cruze to Revo R3. - by: mike k

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I thought I would share my initial thoughts on changing from my Cruze to a Revo R3. My account maybe of interest to others relatively new to Surfski as I started out in Surfskis with the Cruze just over a year ago. I am 52 6ft tall and weigh 12.5 stone and have kayaked for the last couple of years mainly on sit ons fishing. I also did kayaking many years ago with the scouts.

I bought my Cruze in hybrid lay up back in August last year and immediately got on well with it using it in the sea and river and over the year have gained confidence to a point where I will look for a forecast of wave height up to around 0.8 metre for a little downwinding/wave running to give an indication of my ability.

I started to think earlier in the year I could maybe move to another slightly more demanding Surfski to try and continue my learning and improve my ability and the Revo R3 came about after being taken with the concept and liason with Alan Hunter who is now the UK agent.

For my initial outing after taking delivery of the much more pointy R3 I went to the river to make sure there were no mishaps first time out. I went to my local slipway and floated her and hopped in side saddle. (This was the first quite major difference I noticed with the seat being both narrower and more importantly significantly deeper than the Cruze and it felt slightly uncomfortable sitting side saddle)Anyway I swung my legs inboard as I have become accustomed to in the Cruze and immediately rolled out the other side of the R3 into the river to my shock but amusement of others.

After chatting with a Guy who was watching and was a Surfskier I nervously got back in side saddle got one leg in and then started to paddle with my other leg trailing for a couple of strokes and I was off. To me the R3 felt so twitchy not wanting to sit even upright without tipping off centre and I paddled nervously toward the lock. On the plus side it looks so racy and pointy from the cockpit and got a few admiring glances I think because I didn't dare look anything but straight ahead.

I got a little more confident with some forward momentum appearing to balance her out a little and made it to the pontoon at the lock. I then remembered a review where the tester said the Revo does feel a little nervous on centre but then with a little lean the secondary stability kicks in so I put the paddle on the side and let her lean over slightly to feel that secondary stability however I must have passed that stage quickly as I found myself swimming next to the boat before I knew what was happening.

My first trip to the sea was after another river trip and in very calm conditions but with that slight wallowing motion as I paddled parallel to the beach (close enough to swim to shore if needed) had me in probably 10 plus times in a 2 hour period.

At this stage my Cruze felt like an old cuddly mate and the R3 a giant swan vesta match and I wondered if I had made a mistake.

At this point I had a bit of fortune as I enquired about a cover for the R3 with Robin of Durban Surfski and had a conversation about my difficulties. Robin gave me some great tips like pivoting on my hips to aid balancing as I seemed to be trying to use my whole top half in one movement. He also suggested sitting in the ski without a paddle to quicken the balance learning.

These two things plus others have definitely helped and also shown me that some of this is in the mind as I could not look behind me even on the river as my brain knew I would fall out. However last time out in the river I went with a drysuit on so I was warm and had a play around after deliberately falling in I was amazed there was more balance than I thought. After we paddled off from that training exercise I could look behind me on the river so that was clearly just a mental block and nervousness.

As a result of the deeper seat it is also harder to get back in from a deep water remount but I find if done to a sequence it does work every time and on the plus side the deeper and narrower seat (34 inch waist) feels snugger and more comfortable to paddle in than the Cruze.

I have now used the R3 5 times on the river and 3 in the sea and have made some progression and last time out in the sea I can paddle a calm sea without falling in and once it chops up a little an occasional spill but as the wind increased to create a confused chop I was struggling and called it a day.

I have carried out some basic comparison between the Cruze and the R3 using mapmyride Gps and have found on the river where I can paddle the R3 at my full power it is roughly 8 % faster in a sprint and the same over a 2km timed run.

I have found with its bigger Surf rudder the R3 turns positively and am hoping my improvement continues so I can see if she goes downwind as well as she looks. I will be keeping the Cruze however for the foreseeable future.

Fenn Swordfish S sale for sale in Caribbean - by: NZMax

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I have a Fenn Swordfish S for sale. We are currently in Grenada in the Southern Caribbean. Any ski paddlers over this way looking for a great ski?

Excellent condition, no leaks. Vacuum Glass layup.

May be able to help with delivery to other Caribbean islands.

New price USD 2,500. Asking USD 1,200

Forward leaning bucket? - by: mickeyA

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Is there are ski out there who’s bucket forces you to lean forward? I mainly paddle V10 Sport g2 and old XT. Over longer distances, I find my butt gradually slides down and forward into the low middle spot of the bucket. This causes me to curve my back, slumping a bit. I have to sort of jump up, push back with legs to slide my backside back up to a more comfortable, higher, position in the back part of the bucket. I like my butt being the furthest point back, causing a strong, slightly forward lean with straight back. Surely there is a seat design that forces a slight forward lean (if not, there is a way to improve in design). If the only answer is padding, what is best product? Thanks.

Nominal Lifespan of Boats - by: HangTen

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While I know in reality the lifespan of a boat depends on any number of factors(how often/conditions you paddle, geographical location/uv exposure, how it's stored, bad luck knocks or surf can certainly break even a new boat, etc.) what is considered the nominal/typical expected lifespan of gel-coated(excluding the spec skis or exposed carbon boats like the Epic GT where the exposure to uv and stiffness when it comes to knocks might skew the average) boats in normal(excluding rocky down river races/huge surf break) use?

And lifespan defined as before any repairs, as I imagine in the hands of a skilled repair specialist you could extend the life considerably if not indefinitely(I imagine there would be a point where the cost/benefit of repair would exceed that of buying a new boat).

All other things being equal any difference for glass, kevlar, or carbon?

Repairing different layups - by: HangTen

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To all the composite repair specialists(Ranga and any others on the forum) and those with first hand experience getting their boats repaired, what is the relative difficulty of repairing different layups?


The general impression I get from different tid bits of information on different forums is that:

- fiberglass is the easiest; a lot of that may have to do with just the relative ease of finding someone qualified in fiberglass repair regardless of geographical location, correct me if I'm wrong.

- carbon is more difficult; that may have more to do with the greater scarcity of information and depending on where you're located, access to skilled repair specialists as well as the different coring used with the lighter layups than due to the difficulty of the carbon fiber itself. Again, correct me if I'm completely wrong, this is just the impression I've gathered

- kevlar is most difficult because of the nature of the fabric itself and the way the fibers "fluff" when you try to grind/repair as well as probably even greater scarcity of information on repairing and finding specialist skilled in using kevlar.

- hybrid layups; I would imagine combining the different fabrics in a single boat increases the complexity of the repair, especially any boat that includes kevlar. But is a glass/CF hybrid boat more difficult to repair than an all glass boat or an all CF boat? Is a glass/CF boat repaired with just CF? Or is the sandwich recreated with glass and CF(if the area where the repair is needed is a CF/glass sandwich; I know some manufacturers selectively use different fabric on different parts of the boat)?


Your thoughts are all appreciated. Thanks!

McGregor Classic Ski - by: zachhandler

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Has anyone had a chance to try one?

Standards of Quality - by: HangTen

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When it comes to buying new white surfskis(full paint job Hukis, Revos, etc. might be different) what is the generally accepted standard when it comes to finish? Is function the only consideration or does attention to detail matter?

What do most people check for when taking delivery of a ski? Test for softspots? How do most people test for soft spots? Dings? Scratches? Pinholes?

If you found the below cracks on the gunwales of a new ski would it give anyone else pause?

Thanks!

Chunky venturi covers - by: Canadasurfskiguy

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I've been thinking lately and I'm not sure if my thoughts are of the silly hair splitting nature or are of some worth.

I've got an elite sl. It has two venturis, each cover has a chunky lip where it's glued on to the boat and is also quite big. Their much bigger than the venturi cover on my old v10L and I think their bigger than Think boats' venturi's too. I figure this must create a decent amount more resistance than boats with 1 slim cover and definitely more than all the new bailer boats.

I was down for the Gorge race last summer and saw a newer elite S that had much slimmer and streamlined venturi covers. Do you think there's a worthwhile speed benefit to bother trying to sources these slimmer covers, figure out how to get my current ones off and epoxy on the new ones?

Has anybody done much gps time-trialing to tease out the differences between two -venturis, one venturi or a flush bailer?

Thanks!

Single hand sliding up paddle - by: Zarb

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Hello,

I'm just getting into paddling again and noticed something with my hand position on the paddle.

After several strokes, one of my hands will slowly start creeping up towards the center of the shaft. It will only be one of my hands, the other one stays where it is.

Is it an imbalance issue? Am I gripping correctly?

Nelo 560 Mark verses Nello 560 M - by: brokewolf

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There is a 560 Mark for sale locally. Seller claims it is one year old. It does not have the new type bailer according to pics. Is this a pre Oscar boat or is the same as the 560 M. I have included a pic of boat. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Bill

Belgium - by: frpaddler

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hi

Anybody paddling on a regular basis in Belgium?
Any casual paddler in sprint kayak near Brussels?

Cheers
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